Inspection and GD&T

V-groove measuring calculator

A 0.250 in pin in a 90° groove 0.500 in wide sits with its top 0.0518 in above the surface; the groove is 0.2500 in deep to the sharp vertex.

Technical review pending. Formulas and values are cited. This notice comes down after a machinist review.

Pin in a known groove

Units
°

10° to 170°.

in

Between the sharp edges.

in
in

Optional: gives the groove width at that depth.

in

Optional: checks that the pin clears it.

Pin top relative to the surface (h)

+0.0518 in

h = r x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) - Hv = 0.125 x (1 + 1 / sin(45°)) - 0.2500 = +0.0518 in

Above the surface by 0.0518 in (1.315 mm). Pin center c = r / sin(theta) = 0.1768 in above the vertex; pin top 0.3018 in above the vertex.

Groove depth to the sharp vertex (Hv)

0.2500 in

Hv = W / (2 x tan(theta)) = 0.5 / (2 x tan(45°)) = 0.2500 in

6.350 mm. Width 0.1000 in below the surface: Wy = W - 2 x y x tan(theta) = 0.3000 in.

Flush pin diameter (d0)

0.2071 in

d0 = 2 x Hv x sin(theta) / (1 + sin(theta)) = 2 x 0.2500 x sin(45°) / (1 + sin(45°)) = 0.2071 in

Contact 0.0884 in above the vertex, below the 0.2500 in groove depth: the pin touches the flanks. Largest usable pin dmax 0.7071 in. Pin bottom sits 0.0518 in above the vertex, so it clears a bottom flat narrower than 0.1036 in.

Source: Machinery's Handbook (measuring V-grooves and dovetails with pins); derived by right-triangle trigonometry as shown.

Metric results are shown to 0.001 mm because pin measurements are read that fine.

Results assume a true V with straight flanks and sharp top edges. Compare the reading with the drawing and its tolerance.

How it works

V-groove cross section with a pin resting on both flanks. W is the groove width at the top surface; A is the included groove angle; d is the pin diameter; h is the pin top height above the surface; Hv is the depth from the surface to the sharp vertex. d W h Hv A
V-groove cross section. The pin touches both flanks; its center sits on the groove's center line. h is positive when the pin top is above the surface and negative when it sits below.

Hv = W / (2 x tan(theta)); c = r / sin(theta); h = r x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) - Hv; d0 = 2 x Hv x sin(theta) / (1 + sin(theta)); dmax = 2 x Hv x sin(theta) / cos^2(theta); Wy = W - 2 x y x tan(theta); two pins: Delta = h2 - h1; sin(theta) = (d2 - d1) / (2 x Delta - (d2 - d1)); Hv = (d1 / 2) x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) - h1

Symbol key
SymbolMeaningUnit
AIncluded groove angle°
thetaHalf angle, A / 2°
WGroove width at the top surface, between the sharp edgesin or mm
d, rPin or ball diameter and radiusin or mm
HvDepth from the surface to the sharp vertexin or mm
cPin center height above the vertexin or mm
hPin top height relative to the surface (+ above, - below)in or mm
d0Pin diameter that sits flush with the surfacein or mm
dmaxLargest pin that still touches the flanksin or mm
y, WyDepth below the surface and the groove width therein or mm
FBottom flat widthin or mm
d1, d2Smaller and larger pin or ball diameterin or mm
h1, h2Pin top readings for d1 and d2 (+ above, - below the surface)in or mm
Deltah2 - h1in or mm

Where the formula comes from

  1. The groove flanks meet at the sharp vertex. Half the width over the depth is tan(theta), so Hv = W / (2 x tan(theta)).
  2. The pin touches both flanks, so its center sits on the groove's center line. The radius to each contact point is square to the flank.
  3. That radius is the side opposite theta in a right triangle whose long side runs from the vertex to the pin center: c = r / sin(theta).
  4. The pin top is one more radius up: r x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) above the vertex. Subtract Hv to read it from the surface: h = r x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) - Hv.
  5. The contact point sits r x cos^2(theta) / sin(theta) above the vertex. It has to stay at or below the top edge, Hv, which gives the largest pin, dmax = 2 x Hv x sin(theta) / cos^2(theta).
  6. Set h = 0 and solve for d to get the flush pin: d0 = 2 x Hv x sin(theta) / (1 + sin(theta)).
  7. The pin bottom sits r x (1 / sin(theta) - 1) above the vertex. A bottom flat of width F sits F / (2 x tan(theta)) above it, so the pin clears the flat while its bottom is higher than that.

Groove angle from two pins

Units
mm
mm

Pin top to the surface: + above, - below (a depth gage reading below the surface goes in as negative).

mm
mm

Included groove angle (A)

60.0000 °

sin(theta) = (d2 - d1) / (2 x Delta - (d2 - d1)) = (6 - 4) / (2 x 3.000 - (6 - 4)) = 0.5000

theta = asin(0.5000) = 30.0000°; A = 2 x theta = 60.0000° (60° 0' 0"). Delta = h2 - h1 = -1.392 - (-4.392) = 3.000 mm.

Groove depth to the sharp vertex (Hv)

10.392 mm

Hv = (d1 / 2) x (1 + 1 / sin(theta)) - h1 = (4 / 2) x (1 + 1 / sin(30°)) - (-4.392) = 10.392 mm

Top width W = 2 x Hv x tan(theta) = 12.000 mm.

Worked example: 0.250 in pin in a 90° groove

90° groove, W = 0.500 in, 0.250 in pin (r = 0.125 in).

  1. theta = 45°; sin 45° = 0.70711; tan 45° = 1.0000.
  2. Depth: Hv = 0.500 / (2 x 1.0000) = 0.2500 in.
  3. Pin center: c = 0.125 / 0.70711 = 0.1768 in (0.17678 unrounded); pin top above the vertex = 0.17678 + 0.125 = 0.3018 in (0.125 x 2.41421).
  4. Reading: h = 0.3018 - 0.2500 = +0.0518 in above the surface (0.05178 unrounded; 1.315 mm).
  5. Contact height = 0.125 x 0.5 / 0.70711 = 0.0884 in, below 0.2500 in, so the pin touches the flanks.
  6. Flush pin: d0 = 2 x 0.2500 x 0.70711 / 1.70711 = 0.2071 in. Largest pin: dmax = 2 x 0.2500 x 0.70711 / 0.5 = 0.7071 in.
  7. Width 0.100 in below the surface: 0.500 - 2 x 0.100 x 1.0000 = 0.3000 in.
  8. Pin bottom above the vertex = 0.125 x (1.41421 - 1) = 0.0518 in, so it clears a bottom flat narrower than 2 x 0.0518 x 1.0000 = 0.1036 in.

Result: the pin top reads +0.0518 in above the surface; the groove is 0.2500 in deep.

Worked example: 6 mm ball in a 60° groove, then the angle from two balls

60° groove, W = 12 mm, 6 mm ball (r = 3 mm).

  1. theta = 30°; sin 30° = 0.5; tan 30° = 0.57735; cos 30° = 0.86603.
  2. Depth: Hv = 12 / (2 x 0.57735) = 10.392 mm.
  3. Ball center: c = 3 / 0.5 = 6.000 mm; top above the vertex = 6.000 + 3 = 9.000 mm.
  4. Reading: h = 9.000 - 10.392 = -1.392 mm: the ball top sits 1.392 mm below the surface (0.0548 in).
  5. Contact height = 3 x 0.75 / 0.5 = 4.500 mm, below 10.392 mm. Flush ball: d0 = 2 x 10.392 x 0.5 / 1.5 = 6.928 mm. Largest ball: dmax = 2 x 10.392 x 0.5 / 0.75 = 13.856 mm.
  6. Width 4 mm below the surface: 12 - 2 x 4 x 0.57735 = 7.381 mm.
  7. Angle from two balls: a 4 mm ball reads 4.392 mm below the surface (h1 = -4.392 mm) and the 6 mm ball reads 1.392 mm below (h2 = -1.392 mm). Delta = -1.392 - (-4.392) = 3.000 mm.
  8. sin(theta) = (6 - 4) / (2 x 3.000 - 2) = 2 / 4.000 = 0.5000; theta = 30.0000°; A = 60.0000°.
  9. Hv = 2 x (1 + 1 / 0.5) - (-4.392) = 6.000 + 4.392 = 10.392 mm; W = 2 x 10.392 x 0.57735 = 12.000 mm (11.9996 unrounded).

Result: the 6 mm ball reads -1.392 mm (below the surface); two balls give A = 60.0000°, Hv 10.392 mm, W 12.000 mm.

Shop notes

  • Read h with a depth micrometer, or a height gage and indicator, from the top surface to the top of the pin.
  • The formulas assume sharp groove edges and a straight flank. Broken or chamfered edges change W, not the pin reading; measure W at the sharp-edge intersection or work from Hv.
  • For the angle method, use the biggest diameter difference the groove allows. With 0.1875 in and 0.2500 in pins in a 90° groove, a 0.0001 in error in one reading moves the angle about 0.26° (computed); with 4 mm and 6 mm balls in a 60° groove, a 0.001 mm error moves it about 0.03°.
  • Use gage pins or balls of known size only; a drill shank is not round enough to measure with.

FAQ

Where does a pin sit in a 90° V-groove?

Its center sits r / sin(45°) = 1.4142 x r above the vertex. A 0.250 in pin in a 0.500 in wide groove tops out 0.0518 in above the surface.

What size pin sits flush in a V-groove?

d0 = 2 x Hv x sin(A/2) / (1 + sin(A/2)). For a 90° groove 0.2500 in deep, 0.2071 in.

How deep is a 60° V-groove 12 mm wide?

10.392 mm to the sharp vertex: 12 / (2 x tan 30°).

How do you find a V-groove angle with two pins?

Read both pin tops from the surface, then sin(A/2) = (d2 - d1) / (2 x Delta - (d2 - d1)). Readings 3.000 mm apart with 4 mm and 6 mm balls give 60°.

How big a pin can measure a V-groove?

Up to dmax = 2 x Hv x sin(A/2) / cos^2(A/2), when the contact reaches the top edge: 0.7071 in for a 90° groove 0.2500 in deep. Use a pin well under that.

Does a V-groove need a sharp bottom?

No. The pin touches only the flanks; a 0.250 in pin in a 90° groove clears a bottom flat up to 0.1036 in wide.

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